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An Interesting Case

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johnmjoy USA 440 Posts	Posted - 12/15/2006 : 07:19:00 http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,52975 Synopsis: seventeen year old state champ high school wrestler uses the (ahem) "oil check" on teammates at practice... and finds himself charged with 21 counts of rape (each with a possible 25-year sentence if convicted). JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation
JK USA 1057 Posts	Posted - 12/15/2006 : 09:26:30 lol, thats my favorite way to get out of leglocks. He must have been taking it to new levels. WTF! Justin A martial artist's road to success is paved with blood.
psdtc USA 6851 Posts	Posted - 12/15/2006 : 09:29:04 quote: http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=0,52975 Synopsis: seventeen year old state champ high school wrestler uses the (ahem) "oil check" on teammates at practice... and finds himself charged with 21 counts of rape (each with a possible 25-year sentence if convicted). JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation He should use the Clinto Defense...I did not have sexual relations with...nevermind, it didn't work for him. Back to reality here, I know wrestling has that move where you grab the anal/crotch area. I am sure they are going to dig up his sexual preferance to start. Maybe he wrestled other kids who did not know what that move was about? Maybe its his signature move. Keep this updated...its a weird case. Ron Kosakowski Practical Self Defense Training Center 847 Hamilton Ave. (RT 69) Waterbury, CT 06706 203-596-9073 info@psdtc.com http://www.psdtc.com http://www.traditionalfilipinoweapons.com
psdtc USA 6851 Posts	Posted - 12/15/2006 : 09:30:23 quote: lol, thats my favorite way to get out of leglocks. He must have been taking it to new levels. WTF! Justin A martial artist's road to success is paved with blood. Yah, Gina has escaped many a lock I put her in with one finger. It makes me jump like a dart out of a dart gun! Ron Kosakowski Practical Self Defense Training Center 847 Hamilton Ave. (RT 69) Waterbury, CT 06706 203-596-9073 info@psdtc.com http://www.psdtc.com http://www.traditionalfilipinoweapons.com
Jack Bauer USA 84 Posts	Posted - 12/15/2006 : 11:45:37 quote: lol, thats my favorite way to get out of leglocks. He must have been taking it to new levels. WTF! Justin A martial artist's road to success is paved with blood. Ahh pervert, now everyone is gonna take you to court so they can take home some of your winnings. ;)
psdtc USA 6851 Posts	Posted - 12/15/2006 : 15:01:53 quote: quote: lol, thats my favorite way to get out of leglocks. He must have been taking it to new levels. WTF! Justin A martial artist's road to success is paved with blood. Ahh pervert, now everyone is gonna take you to court so they can take home some of your winnings. ;) ????????? Ron Kosakowski Practical Self Defense Training Center 847 Hamilton Ave. (RT 69) Waterbury, CT 06706 203-596-9073 info@psdtc.com http://www.psdtc.com http://www.traditionalfilipinoweapons.com
JK USA 1057 Posts	Posted - 12/15/2006 : 15:12:39 "Ahh pervert, now everyone is gonna take you to court so they can take home some of your winnings. ;)" oddly enough I never had problems getting grappling partners. Justin A martial artist's road to success is paved with blood.
johnmjoy USA 440 Posts	Posted - 12/18/2006 : 10:13:18 quote: Keep this updated...its a weird case. He's supposed to be in court on Friday, on his attorney's motion to move the case to juvie, so more details will likely come out then. In the meantime, he (and the sport of wrestling generally) is being absolutely crucified in the blogosphere. (The skinhead bastards have - surprise! - already picked up on the fact that he's mixed race, which, I hate to say, doesn't bode well in very Aryan South Dakota, where people may be found bitching about the "browning of America.") What sucks: even if he emerges totally exonerated of the criminal charges, the kid's life has already taken a major turn south. He's had to leave school, which likely throws a serious monkeywrench in (if not completely derails) any college or career plans he may have had. This being America, the Land of Litigation, the parents of the other kids are likely, convicted or not, to name him, his parents, the school district and coaches, in a civil suit. And, at the very least, he's forever branded as "that guy who likes to stick his finger up other guy's butts" - not to mention adding fuel to the "wrestlers are a bunch of fag-assed pansies who like to roll around with sweaty, half-naked guys" fire. JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation
johnmjoy USA 440 Posts	Posted - 12/18/2006 : 10:30:11 FWIW, I find this case (or, more the point, the popular reaction to it) to be very disturbing. I mean, dammit! Does everything in this society have to be sexualized? We were watching White Christmas last night. I couldn't help thinking that, in this day and age, Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye would be accused of having a "funny" relationship, even as they were chasing Rosemary Clooney and Vera-Ellen. And this while parents of young girls think it's SO CYOOTE to give their tykes dolls that make Barbie look like a cloistered nun. JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation
johnmjoy USA 440 Posts	Posted - 12/19/2006 : 09:44:45 Re: White Christmas: Of course, I probably should have added something about the Haynes sisters being an incestuous bi/lesbian act - "Lord help the mister who comes between me and my sister." Hollywood and I were remarking on the Bratz dolls the other day. I said we could make a fortune selling a new accessory: Brass Polez. Little did I know... -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation
Francis USA 186 Posts	Posted - 12/19/2006 : 11:26:05 quote: Re: White Christmas: Of course, I probably should have added something about the Haynes sisters being an incestuous bi/lesbian act - "Lord help the mister who comes between me and my sister." Hollywood and I were remarking on the Bratz dolls the other day. I said we could make a fortune selling a new accessory: Brass Polez. Little did I know... -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation Yeah, but you omitted the last line of the song: "God help the sister that comes between me and my man!!" Silentum Excubitor
johnmjoy USA 440 Posts	Posted - 12/19/2006 : 14:08:44 Ah, but that's why I said BI/lesbian. JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation
johnmjoy USA 440 Posts	Posted - 12/20/2006 : 16:00:41 Well, the first set of (radio) "A**-holes in the Mor-NING!" have picked up the story: http://www.joeyandheather.com/index.php?componentName=Section&scid=26825&action=sub§ionid=2479&offset_Section=0 Thus, it's only a matter of time before we'll see it (along with the documents released by the court) on The Smoking Gun. JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation
psdtc USA 6851 Posts	Posted - 12/20/2006 : 17:11:43 quote: Well, the first set of (radio) "A-holes in the Mor-NING!" have picked up the story: http://www.joeyandheather.com/index.php?componentName=Section&scid=26825&action=sub�ionid=2479&offset_Section=0 Thus, it's only a matter of time before we'll see it (along with the documents released by the court) on The Smoking Gun. JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation I am sure this kid will get off these charges. I hope he gets fame and money from all this pressure. He has to be saying WTF...whadda way to start off life though huh?** Ron Kosakowski Practical Self Defense Training Center 847 Hamilton Ave. (RT 69) Waterbury, CT 06706 203-596-9073 info@psdtc.com http://www.psdtc.com http://www.traditionalfilipinoweapons.com
johnmjoy USA 440 Posts	Posted - 12/20/2006 : 17:30:52 I wouldn't be so sure. I suspect (hope) that the case will, in fact, be transferred down to juvie. From there, given the stacking of charges, it'll probably be resolved by a plea deal, which will mean some kind of penalty (even if not time in Da Joint). After which, of course, will arise the civil case. This is best-case. Worst case, he's already a passenger aboard the Big House Express. Frankly, I don't have much faith in the "justice" system, especially given cases like the one down in Durham, NC. Prosecutors are politicians, and their job is to "win" - period. Incidentally, regarding our discussion the other day of the whole "wrestlers are gay" meme (as part of the broader "everything's about sex" meme suffusing society as of late) - here's a sample of what I was talking about: http://sleeping-monkey.com/blog/2006/12/15/i-always-knew-wrestlers-were-gay ...and this is but one of many, many, many. JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation
psdtc USA 6851 Posts	Posted - 12/20/2006 : 17:40:30 quote: I wouldn't be so sure. I suspect (hope) that the case will, in fact, be transferred down to juvie. From there, given the stacking of charges, it'll probably be resolved by a plea deal, which will mean some kind of penalty (even if not time in Da Joint). After which, of course, will arise the civil case. This is best-case. Worst case, he's already a passenger aboard the Big House Express. Frankly, I don't have much faith in the "justice" system, especially given cases like the one down in Durham, NC. Prosecutors are politicians, and their job is to "win" - period. Incidentally, regarding our discussion the other day of the whole "wrestlers are gay" meme (as part of the broader "everything's about sex" meme suffusing society as of late) - here's a sample of what I was talking about: http://sleeping-monkey.com/blog/2006/12/15/i-always-knew-wrestlers-were-gay ...and this is but one of many, many, many. JMJ -- John M. Joy, Chief Technical Officer jmj@savagejoy.com Savage Joy Corporation Wrestling took a dive (no pun intended) back in the 50's and is coming back strong due to the UFC. And Americans taking the gold in the olympics. Why are there idiots spreading rumers that gays are who join wrestling. I am sure there are some in there but who cares...thats a minority and if they are working for their team, who cares! We gotta cut those stupid rumors. Kids need wrestling in the schools to keep them away from the other BS that is offered today. This country is turning our kids into soft wimps! Ron Kosakowski Practical Self Defense Training Center 847 Hamilton Ave. (RT 69) Waterbury, CT 06706 203-596-9073 info@psdtc.com http://www.psdtc.com http://www.traditionalfilipinoweapons.com

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