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lightninghands

USA
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Posted - 03/25/2010 :  00:31:23  Show Profile  Visit lightninghands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.youtube.com/v/YqIhg7QRLMU&hl=en_US&fs=1&color1=0x006699&color2=0x54abd6">

Now I'm no expert, but as far as the sticking and guiding skill, I've never seen a video of someone that was better than this guy...

The ultimate goal in efficent fighting is to use the power of the other man against him.

Loy Lau Hoi Sung Lut Sao Jik Chun

Tai Chi Ken

USA
44 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2010 :  15:24:45  Show Profile  Visit Tai Chi Ken's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, this guy's good. Wish his students weren't so compliant, though. It would of looked more impressive if they were really trying. From what I saw, I suspect that he could've held his own against a stronger attack. Also, I don't know about calling it Chi Kung (qigong); it looked like Yang style Tai Chi to me. Thanks for sharing this! Did you catch his name?

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Tai Chi Ken

USA
44 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2010 :  15:52:22  Show Profile  Visit Tai Chi Ken's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.youtube.com/v/XSnUDkCQ0WU">Now check this out.

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lightninghands

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528 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2010 :  16:45:54  Show Profile  Visit lightninghands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Come on... i've see this video before. there is no way this is real. these guys are jumping when they are falling back.

and not even trying to keep their balance once their pushed...
I say this is a fake...

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Tai Chi Ken

USA
44 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2010 :  22:34:03  Show Profile  Visit Tai Chi Ken's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Har, Har. It looks so good when your students are cooperating!

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Tai Chi Ken

USA
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Posted - 03/25/2010 :  22:46:40  Show Profile  Visit Tai Chi Ken's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://www.youtube.com/v/vNtV4peQREc">Ok, so here's something a little more real...

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psdtc

USA
6724 Posts
Posted - 03/25/2010 :  23:02:55  Show Profile  Visit psdtc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

Come on... i've see this video before. there is no way this is real. these guys are jumping when they are falling back.

and not even trying to keep their balance once their pushed...
I say this is a fake...

Loy Lau Hoi Sung Lut Sao Jik Chun


I have to agree on that one. The 1st and 3rd video stuff looks good and familiar but that 2nd video is fulla bullshido.

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lightninghands

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Posted - 03/25/2010 :  23:40:43  Show Profile  Visit lightninghands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I really liked the first video, and think that the third one is very good too. It shows the guiding energy and then the sudden stealing of their structure and posture.

The shock power the guy used in the last video was nice.

I still think the second one is hokey, but only because his students appear to be acting too much.

I've felt the positional game of Tai Chi, and understand it in Chi Sao, getting a good soft guiding flow is what its all about.

Really steal their force and use it against them.

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Tai Chi Ken

USA
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Posted - 03/26/2010 :  15:12:08  Show Profile  Visit Tai Chi Ken's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The problem with #2 (pun intended) is that he's using real techniques, they're just performed in a false way. I wonder if he really thinks what he's doing works. It's the classic example of students not wanting to offend their teacher (especially in public) and then just following his lead. I wonder if they really believe they're getting wonked. Koichi Tohei used to do a similar performance in which he didn't even touch the student and they fell over; they all claimed it was his Ki (qi). "Aikido" you not.

This illustrates a problem in all hierarchical systems, when people revere their leaders too much (dictator or pope, I don't care). Its like the followers are hypnotised. You see many examples of this in history and politics. The leader who surrounds himself with "Yes-men" always fails in the end. The delusions of both (leaders and followers) end up with everyone participating in a group mind-f*ck and no one able to make sane decisions, even life and death decisions.

My only issue with the 1st video is that neither of the students were very rooted or centered; in a way they were cooperating too. Though nowhere near as egregiously (I love when I get to use this word) as #2. The master was obviously very good. The master in #2 may be good; I don't know. In #3, you just see the master's students, and they're very good, so he must be great.

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psdtc

USA
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Posted - 03/26/2010 :  16:15:49  Show Profile  Visit psdtc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

The problem with #2 (pun intended) is that he's using real techniques, they're just performed in a false way. I wonder if he really thinks what he's doing works. It's the classic example of students not wanting to offend their teacher (especially in public) and then just following his lead. I wonder if they really believe they're getting wonked. Koichi Tohei used to do a similar performance in which he didn't even touch the student and they fell over; they all claimed it was his Ki (qi). "Aikido" you not.

This illustrates a problem in all hierarchical systems, when people revere their leaders too much (dictator or pope, I don't care). Its like the followers are hypnotised. You see many examples of this in history and politics. The leader who surrounds himself with "Yes-men" always fails in the end. The delusions of both (leaders and followers) end up with everyone participating in a group mind-f*ck and no one able to make sane decisions, even life and death decisions.

My only issue with the 1st video is that neither of the students were very rooted or centered; in a way they were cooperating too. Though nowhere near as egregiously (I love when I get to use this word) as #2. The master was obviously very good. The master in #2 may be good; I don't know. In #3, you just see the master's students, and they're very good, so he must be great.

-K


This is a fine example of such hypnotism:

http://www.youtube.com/v/gEDaCIDvj6I&hl=en_US&fs=1&">

Ron Kosakowski
Practical Self Defense Training Center
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Waterbury, CT 06706
203-596-9073
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